FOR ALL TO READ, REGS ADMIN OWNERS PPL WHO DONT PLAY!!!

**CMAC** · 07-31-2008

hopefully we will bring traffic back to our office_unlimited server once i release this map which I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, k thanks.
if only there was some way NA could not get a hold of it, or it woudlnt work on their server or sumthin..

**easytarget** · 07-31-2008

Pasties wanted me to say something, but he really covered it. You are our players and regulars. You play where you want, but historically you have stuck with us for a reason. We do not have bad blood with other communities (friends with TnB and n00bsalad), we do not try to screw people over. These two people tried to screw with us and now they are paying for it. They are digging deep and using tactics that are quite frankly, not very honest. Lying is not a good color and the NA owners are wearing it proudly. I feel sorry for their members because they did not know pasties and sios side of the matter and got duped into burrito/deuces lies but I agreed with pasties and sios decision not even to open it up to the public. They did not want to make anyone look bad but now, we are showing to you guys, we have nothing to hide. Go ahead and soak in when pasties just wrote. Both sio and pasties have been our owners for so long, I trust them over some "marine" and a kid who wears woman's clothes.

I just want to comment on burrito because basically every admin did not even like him when he was with NU. I am sorry I did not tell you up front that I did not like you one bit. You are retarded. I think it was because you were in our NU admin circle that I bit my tongue. I did not even notice you took me off steam/xfire until I noticed I was not getting the usual 20 messages of begging to get admin back. But really, all those times you told me and wolfeh, you still suck your thumb and you are like 20 or something, I always thought there was something wrong with you. I think its fitting you are running empty servers. Have fun.

~Easy

**Kirk** · 07-31-2008

hahaha nice easy. I still sleep with a stuffed bunny rabbit

is there something wrong with me?

**HellscreamsRage** · 07-31-2008

I've played CS for years and years, been to uncountable servers, been in a few clans that ran their own servers. I've seen how servers run well and how they are run poorly. Now I've never been involved in a large community until I ventured into the Zombie server one fateful day.

Steveo and Tara were the first ones I met and they showed me how a good server was supposed to run, forget about Office, S&D, Dust2, I only knew about the zombie server. I didn't even know really there was an N/U before Steveo started hinting of adminship opportunity for me and asked me to join the website/forum.

No one has ever, (the Ownership included), tried to lay false trails before me. Except in these rare occasions where a disenfranchised party wasn't happy and broke away and tried to grab people from us. Pasties and Sios are always upfront with how N/U is doing, how admins are doing and how the community as a whole is doing. if they ever had a problem with me or any situation I have known about, they confront it, explore all options (or if its a dispute: all sides of the matter) try to judge the best way to go about things and set a course to make everyone happy (sometimes even at the expense of themselves).

Some of the newer admins may look from afar and see Pasties and Sios as all powerful entities who give out orders and don't take anything from no one (Hell, Sios scared the crap out of me at one point, he was the man in the red rusty van asking if I wanted candy and I am a man who likes his candy).

These guys are great people who put up with a lot of grief to make our freetime FUNTIME. Sios especially with the running of the servers 24/7. I've left out Tara for the most part because I haven't seen her lately

and that makes me sad because she is the one that got me stoked for N/U and made playing on these servers fun.

Needless to say is that if pasties or sios were liars or crooks, they wouldn't have built a base of Jr Owners, Admins and regular pubs that have fun working and playing together. A great community isn't based on lies and deceit, it needs cooperation from the bottom all the way up to the top and vice versa.

So listen to burrito all you want, but the proof is in the performance and in the players. And we got both!

Want more proof? This is why I love this community: We've had jr owners, and admins (including myself) disappear, or leave, or come on hard times, and all Pasties, Sios, Tara, and others of the ownership say is: Don't worry about it, we got ya covered!

Don't worry about it...They welcome everyone and help people who need it. These are people many of these admins including myself have never met in person but are willing to go out on the limb for you when you're in need. I mean come on people, unless you're a complete fuck up, they have your back (and sometimes when you're a complete fuck up, you're hilarious so they will have your back even more)

**siosios** · 07-31-2008

for the record there was no "mill" (as burrito stated) sent my way or we would have a hell of alot more servers then we do and the admins would NOT need to donate anymore.

here is the actual server costs we pay a month for the 2 dedicated boxes that N/U runs to host both the website and all the gameservers (minus the cal vent and cal cod4 server)

game server:

20080728 Network Attached Storage: 20 GB NAS $5.00 $0.33 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $5.00 $0.33 $0.00 $0.00

sio4.sio4.net:
20080728 Server: Quad Processor Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$659.00 $43.49 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Second Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Third Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz (Tigerton)
- 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Fourth Processor: Quad Core Intel 7320 - 2.13GHz
(Tigerton) - 4 x 4MB cache
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Ram: 8 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Disk Controller: SA-SCSI Disk Controller $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 First Hard Drive: 73GB SA-SCSI 10K RPM $30.00 $1.98 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Remote Management: Reboot / KVM over IP $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Uplink Port Speeds: 100 Mbps Public & Private Networks $10.00 $0.66 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Public Network Port: 100 Mbps public uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Private Network Port: 100 Mbps private uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Public Bandwidth: 2000 GB Bandwidth $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Monitoring: Host Ping $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Notification: Email and Ticket $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Response: Automated Notification $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Operating System: Windows Server 2003 Standard R2 SP2
(64 bit)
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Primary IP Addresses: 1 IP Address $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Secondary IP Addresses: 4 IP Addresses $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Lockbox: 1 GB Lockbox $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Intrusion Detection & Protection: Network IDS/IPS Protection $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 Vulnerability Assessments & Management: Nessus
Vulnerability Assessment & Reporting
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $699.00 $46.13 $0.00 $0.00
20080728 One Time Charge: Bandwidth Overage ($0.10/GB)
sio4.sio4.net - 2000GB Allocated - 2068.21GB Used -
68.21GB Over
$6.82 $0.45 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $6.82 $0.45 $0.00 $0.00
Totals $710.82 $46.91 $0.00 $0.00
Amount Due $757.73
20080728 RECURRING_PAYMENT_CREDIT Credit Card ending in: xxxx ($-757.73)
20080728 RECURRING $757.73

webserver:
n00b.n00bunlimited.net:
20080729 Server: Single Processor Quad Core Xeon 5310 - 1.60GHz
(Clovertown) - 1 x 8MB cache
$199.00 $13.13 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Ram: 4 GB FB-DIMM Registered 533/667 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Disk Controller: SATA Disk Controller $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 First Hard Drive: 250GB SATA II $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Second Hard Drive: 250GB SATA II $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Remote Management: Reboot / KVM over IP $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Uplink Port Speeds: 100 Mbps Public & Private Networks $10.00 $0.66 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Public Network Port: 100 Mbps public uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Private Network Port: 100 Mbps private uplink* $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Public Bandwidth: 2000 GB Bandwidth $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Monitoring: Host Ping $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Notification: Email and Ticket $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Response: Automated Notification $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Operating System: Red Hat Enterprise Linux - 5 (32 bit) $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Control Panel Software: cPanel/WHM with Fantastico and
RVskin
$25.00 $1.65 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Primary IP Addresses: 1 IP Address $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Secondary IP Addresses: 4 IP Addresses $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Lockbox: 1 GB Lockbox $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Intrusion Detection & Protection: Network IDS/IPS Protection $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
20080729 Vulnerability Assessments & Management: Nessus
Vulnerability Assessment & Reporting
$0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Sub-Total $234.00 $15.44 $0.00 $0.00
Totals $234.00 $15.44 $0.00 $0.00
Amount Due $249.44
20080729 RECURRING $249.44

now with that totaled up we are at $1006.00 a month... right? (i see the need so we have quality servers not some 40 dollor hosted game server on a box that is overloaded with too many game servers dropping the quality of game play)

now the other $400 goes on (not that we break the payment for the main servers but im going to toss this out there)

supporting the cal teams vent, thier cod4 server, hlstats, advanced placment/advertising on http://www.game-monitor.com/ , and anything else we can think of to make the servers more enjoyable for you guys.

i sure as shit dont mind spending the time i do working on the servers(or used to now that nat has taken up some of the slack for me) but to sit hear and listen to people telling me they are leaving becuase i "stole" from ma_duece made me feel that i had lost something along the way..... but i didnt lose anything. all i did was try to make N/U better for you guys.

btw just gonna post a few conversation peices so you know what type of guy he really is...

[22:23] maduecejax: I was just banned in office extended for talking dude I am pissed
[22:23] maduecejax: some noob admin
[22:23] maduecejax: I need your help
[22:30] maduecejax: <Incoming call from maduecejax. Click the voice button to answer>
[22:30] maduecejax: <You missed a call from maduecejax>
[22:31] maduecejax: I will send you $100 right now to chew his ass out
[22:31] maduecejax: and I mean rip him or her a new one
[22:41] maduecejax: <Incoming call from maduecejax. Click the voice button to answer>
[22:41] maduecejax: <You missed a call from maduecejax>
[22:54] maduecejax: Thanks man I will pay you that $100 I promised. If I dont pay you can bann me yourself> LOL
[22:54] siosios: LOL
[22:55] maduecejax: Thanx man I will login and pay tomorow long week and just want to screw off and play some office
[22:55] maduecejax: what will it cost to bann here
[22:55] siosios: dont mind sera she is a good admin and is following the rules
[22:55] maduecejax: her
[22:55] siosios: lol
[22:55] siosios: banher
[22:56] siosios: ?
[22:56] maduecejax: lol
[22:56] maduecejax: everything has a price
[22:56] siosios: HAHA
[22:56] siosios: i dont have prices... im too stuck on my own beliefs to be bought
[22:56] maduecejax: nice
[22:57] maduecejax: I will still donate that $100

i never even chewed sera's ass for that i just explained that pasties gave him more slack then others....

[12:35] maduecejax: Hey man I did not want to lose my admin privildges, and it wasnt a money issue at all. It was timing I got real and I mean real busy for a period of time.
[12:35] maduecejax: I just did not have the time.
[12:36] maduecejax: In all reality money is NOT an Issue at all.
[12:36] siosios: pasties does all the admin stuff seeing as im always working or working on the servers
[12:36] siosios: i didnt even know he set you as afk
[12:37] maduecejax: He kept harassing me for money as soon as I started playing again
[12:38] maduecejax: the second I get on he asked me for money and didnt even say hello. I was like WTF man I just got back on here after being gone for 2 mos and the first thing he asked me for was money
[12:38] maduecejax: That pissed me off
[12:38] maduecejax: I was like WTF
[12:38] maduecejax: Fine you get nothing then
[12:38] maduecejax: Money is not an issue for me at all
[12:38] maduecejax: I have made over 100G this year from my comp
[12:39] siosios: he was rpobably concerned we wernt going to make the bills for the servers and was not being socialble
[12:39] maduecejax: and I have only owned my own company for the past 9 mos.
[12:39] siosios: for that im sorry
[12:40] maduecejax: If he had concern thats all he had to say I would help you guys out anytime. Idont want to see this server go away
[12:40] maduecejax: Well how much does it take If I become part owner
[12:41] siosios: well like ive told the other admin.... money is not why we do this but making the bills so we can keep what we have is a monthly worry and i think it stresses pasties out ALOT
[12:41] maduecejax: yeah but this is pennys to the right backers
[12:41] siosios: you would have to discuss that with pasties on the owner ship part

again trying to buy his way into ownership of N/U to which the answer from pasties was no.....

[18:51] maduecejax: Ok then I am going to request that the $500.00 I sent you for advertisement be either sent back to me. Or as we had initially agreed on based on that contract I will pay you an additional $500.00 and you advertise
[19:22] siosios: well ill tell you this... your adverts will never be on the game servers or the website but you will get your money back and thats that. you will recieve your 500 via paypal in 3 weeks time and not a day sooner. and that will take care of that contract once and for all
[19:26] maduecejax: I am telling yo dont make me get dirty on this Sios. Come on Kiss and make up.
[19:26] maduecejax: That is exacttly what the contract said
[19:28] siosios: nope have requested your money back and that IS what i am going to do ...you said that i am a man of my word and that is what i am by doing as asked to return your money for an incomplete transaction that happened months ago.
[19:28] maduecejax: thats not the contract
[19:29] maduecejax: If you choose to give money back that is your choice but I have the contract, and that is not what it says
[19:29] maduecejax: I am going to take the contract

so lets sum it up.... i offered the money back and he refused... now he tells people i stole from him.... and even before this last discussion he told us that the money could be conidered a donation as the first company was not going to take off. (some of the above has time spaces becuase of things that can not be mentioned in public becuase i signed an non-disclosure agreement concerning details of the agreement and what not.

so this is all up to you regulars and new players and even NA to decide on.

just a side note its not that i dont like ma_duece i just dont stand for someone trying to bully N/U and its players becuase of me and my needs to make this place better for you guys. i dont make a dime off working on this place but i do enjoy seeing all of you have fun on what ive (meaning the servers and back end) worked so hard on to create.

enjoy our servers becuase they are there for you guys... not me!

thanks
siosios

PS: if people are wondering why ottobohn from n00bsalad is making donations every month is becuase he trusts me enough to host his entire gaming website on the N/U webserver..... just another way to help pay the bills and keep good friends on a stable platform!

**claydog114** · 07-31-2008

Originally Posted by easytarget

Pasties wanted me to say something, but he really covered it. You are our players and regulars. You play where you want, but historically you have stuck with us for a reason. We do not have bad blood with other communities (friends with TnB and n00bsalad), we do not try to screw people over. These two people tried to screw with us and now they are paying for it. They are digging deep and using tactics that are quite frankly, not very honest. Lying is not a good color and the NA owners are wearing it proudly. I feel sorry for their members because they did not know pasties and sios side of the matter and got duped into burrito/deuces lies but I agreed with pasties and sios decision not even to open it up to the public. They did not want to make anyone look bad but now, we are showing to you guys, we have nothing to hide. Go ahead and soak in when pasties just wrote. Both sio and pasties have been our owners for so long, I trust them over some "marine" and a kid who wears woman's clothes.

I just want to comment on burrito because basically every admin did not even like him when he was with NU. I am sorry I did not tell you up front that I did not like you one bit. You are retarded. I think it was because you were in our NU admin circle that I bit my tongue. I did not even notice you took me off steam/xfire until I noticed I was not getting the usual 20 messages of begging to get admin back. But really, all those times you told me and wolfeh, you still suck your thumb and you are like 20 or something, I always thought there was something wrong with you. I think its fitting you are running empty servers. Have fun.

~Easy

PO-TA-TOES

And SIO/pastiez thanks for clearing all this up. it is greatly appreciated!! This is precisely the reason i am still here today, because of you guy's honesty. pastiez proved his self to me 1 month after i got my admin here. and i never plan on leaving!
<3 N/u 4L

**Null** · 07-31-2008

I waited for some of you to post to see what you had to say since i read this as soon as pasties posted it, i was luckly I was away when most of this stuff happened.

1) I know pasties, and have met him in RL and he is a nice down to earth person.
2) Burrito before i left was starting to be an ass to the players/not doing his job and other stuff wich I had discussed with other admins, so its not a suprise to me he would pull this sort of stunt.
3) I cannot be BOUGHT OFF as well from any players, break the rules and your gone (i may be TOUGHT but im FAIR) Only exception is that I can however be bought off by Pasties/Sios/and if she comes back TARA...
4) I once said I didnt like Ma_DEUCE....my instincs were right. But the stunt he's trying to pull is total BS and being in the military he should know better, I hope it bites him in the ass.

MESSAGE TO ALL THAT WANT TO HURT THE NU SOCIETY.... Get a life, stop ruinning other's, we will survive without you.

As for the new map your making CMAC JUST RELEASE IT WITH TERMS THAT ONLY APPROVED COMMUNITIES MAY USE IT...if they run the MAP then report them for breaches to Intelectual Property and their server provider by LAW will need to force em to remove it/deactivate their accounts otherwise face legal action. I know its cheap doing this but you have to do what you need to in order to survive.

**Zaku-x109** · 07-31-2008

Originally Posted by Null

As for the new map your making CMAC JUST RELEASE IT WITH TERMS THAT ONLY APPROVED COMMUNITIES MAY USE IT...if they run the MAP then report them for breaches to Intelectual Property and their server provider by LAW will need to force em to remove it/deactivate their accounts otherwise face legal action. I know its cheap doing this but you have to do what you need to in order to survive.

go null

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BODY SCIENCE

LordMindhunter · 07-31-2008

well

i asked pasties for some info as some players came to me and said that siosios was a robber and htey didnt want to play with him, i tried to take out the little fires by saying that they dont need to
get in stuff that isnt theire bussiness and that the people involved will take care of it.

I also said to pasties he didnt need to if it was non of my bussines as i would understand. but he had to get tired of many questions round this.

Alot of u guys know that I use to play in NR and i know word from there and i was very loyal to NR at the time but then some admin was being an idiot and the owners did shit. and no respect for who I was and how long i played there.

I played here for bout a year and Pasties knows me from wayback, before NR and NG where made by a split dont know the server tho very long time ago, and now im admin, hopefully a good 1, and im trying to get into word cal WITH ALOT OF PROCTICE tho.

What i want to say is that NU is now The server I play on and my loyalty lies here and I got way more respect from the players and admins, thats important for the players too,
And Im glad that the owners explain this to not only other owners and admins but also the players of NU.

So keep on the good work and tnx again.

Grtz Mindhunter

Soviet · 07-31-2008

Hi guys this is Soviet
You may no me you may not, but i hope i can meet you.

Now a couple of years ago or so... i joined N/U
i played....
and played
and played

Now a couple of days ago i waited for an hour to see if anyone was playin on N/U office unlimited.... I sux at reg.
Noone.

So i searched for a cs_office_unlimited map. Lo and Behold! N/A!! I was like cool!
Played a couple of days... noted a lot of players from n/u playing here. A few people like Turtle and some little kid didnt know why they got banned.
A few others were seriosly pissed. I was like wtf!!! but of course.. i let it go.
5 mins after being in N/A i got bored cause there were only like 2 or 3 people so i joined N/U DM server as N/A T.S.B.T.J.A.O.S(if you know me at all you would know i change my name ALOT) i played for like 3 mins tops... raping like usual... then BAM!!! I was banned!

I checked for why and it said Disrespecting Admin... i was like wtf!!!!
(See idk about the feud)
So i protested.... you may think i was being a bitch about it for it was only a day ban but...i AM ADDICTED

I protested checked it the next day and it was PERMA BAN i was like wtf!!!! Reason: the buddies over at n/a blah blah blah
I got mad and bugged sio about it cause i was really pissed.
But to make a long story a little bit shorter... i read this
i didnt know this
I feel bad that i didnt give n/u a little bit of credit cause i am ignorant
but im back and i will help you guys in anyway possible!

GO N/U!!!